He's in Vegas on a roll at the casinos,.... last I heard.
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while an earlier version was made available privately the time has come to 'progress'.. conscious class and ex both strongly adhere to not keeping things 'hidden' in regards to wts publications, talks and documents which are circulated in order to maintain it's position.. another wonderful poster (who has yet to give me permission to name) has 'reduced' and 'bookmarked' the first full copy link i was given by our 'winner'.. in this newest and final 'clean' copy link you find two other additions besides the reduction/bookmarking..... the brother who uploaded the entire book wishes all to have a copy that includes both boe ltrs (pre-ks ltr and spiral binding ltr).
also another development has occurred.... the brother responsible for this book being brought into light and put forth for public consumption and discussion has requested i post this letter explaining to 'us' (jwn posters/global audience) and 'them' (wts of penn & ny).. i ask you give attention to his words/ experiences as he is representative of a newly emerging demographic within the conscious class.
so without further ado i give you his link and the 'stage' if you will to 'brother johnson'....... [link removed - contact ynot for further info - lady lee].
He's in Vegas on a roll at the casinos,.... last I heard.
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while an earlier version was made available privately the time has come to 'progress'.. conscious class and ex both strongly adhere to not keeping things 'hidden' in regards to wts publications, talks and documents which are circulated in order to maintain it's position.. another wonderful poster (who has yet to give me permission to name) has 'reduced' and 'bookmarked' the first full copy link i was given by our 'winner'.. in this newest and final 'clean' copy link you find two other additions besides the reduction/bookmarking..... the brother who uploaded the entire book wishes all to have a copy that includes both boe ltrs (pre-ks ltr and spiral binding ltr).
also another development has occurred.... the brother responsible for this book being brought into light and put forth for public consumption and discussion has requested i post this letter explaining to 'us' (jwn posters/global audience) and 'them' (wts of penn & ny).. i ask you give attention to his words/ experiences as he is representative of a newly emerging demographic within the conscious class.
so without further ado i give you his link and the 'stage' if you will to 'brother johnson'....... [link removed - contact ynot for further info - lady lee].
I sent you a PM breathing. Click the envelope top right of screen, ...message should be there but you may have to click it twice to open it (error given 1st time)
Yknot: Awesome work as always!
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if you step down, they are going to want to know why?
what do you say?.
If you want the quiet fade from MS then move to a nearby cong. ....unless your record is positively glowing then they will likely wait a period of time to see how you do before deciding to let you be MS there.
If thats the case then just dont do so well on meeting attenence, ministry etc. Job done. you are not an MS anymore and no nasty announcment to that effect either.
If you cant change cong, then you have to go the deletion route, as you cant step down quietly. It doent matter how slow or fast you do this the end result is the same... deletion with an announcement.
Welcome to the Faders Club
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most of us x-jw's at one point no doubt defended the jw's when called a cult.
althought being out since 95', when i first came here it took awhile before i could use the cult word to describe the jw religion.
finding out about the pedophile scandal was disgusting, but it was probably finding out here about the wts history and terrible personal experiences of some on this board that made me finally admit that the jw's were a cult.
Reading this very forum did it for me and then putting in the effort to challenge my previously held beliefs. Not an easy thing for a born in, but we should all kick ourselves for NOT doing it BEFORE baptism!!
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what's a really good movie you'd recommend that most people probably haven't seen?.
my personal recommendation: synecdoche, new york.
it's one of those movies that words fail utterly to capture--which really is the hallmark of a good movie, i suppose.
Mongol was an awesome film. Russian to boot.
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i need a link to an elders letter about uncleaness with greediness.
Was in a QFR about 2 years ago as well. August issue rings a bell but not certain on that. I remember being shocked that you (I) could be disfellowshipped for it!!
Just read that BOE letter and it's the same but a bit more detailed on the proceedure and consequences.
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hi guys!
im very new here and i need a little help.. im not a witness, but i know all of the quirks and rules and whatnot because my long-distance boyfriend is a witness.
the issue, other than the obvious, is that i fell in love with him before he told me he was one of jehovahs witnesses.
Nathan Natas put it excellently. Your are inviting a whole lot of hassle into your life otherwise. Even if he leaves, he could go back to it again sadly.
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i seem to have a bit of confusion concerning the purpose of this website and the people in it.
perhaps i am not computer savvy and do not understand some of the expressions used.
could someone comment and help clarify.. .
If you want your eyes opened to know the Truth about the "Truth"(tm) then stick around and wade thru the older posts. Same goes if you need help and support or shared common experiences from having been or currently being a jehovahs Witness or having a loved one who is.
If you came here hoping to share fluffy field ministry memories and Big up the FDS as always having your best interests at heart in their decision making process, ...err then, let's just say this site isnt for you.
The avatar to the left is randomly assigned and not to be taken as areflection of your personality. If you hate it, then change it at www.gravatar.com (i think)
Welcome to the forum.
verizon fios is killer!
we have 5 roommates so can split the faster speed cost ($15 more).. using: http://www.speedtest.net/index.php?nojs=1.
anyone get figures like this?
Lucky Bastard!! Uk is miles behind europe and the rest of the world for BB.
Mine is 5mb DL 0.3mb UL 50ms ping, ....it took YEARS to get it here as well... only had it for just over a year FFS as BT were dragging their penny pinching heels.
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i stopped whilst still an active witness, just cancelled my direct debit and told myself i would put money in the box to cover things like literatrash and heat and light sometimes, and sometimes i did , but that dropped off.. the thing is, i cannot really pin down what my motive was at the time, i still thought then that it was god's org.. but i just stopped giving them money.
why ?
i dunno.. when and why did you stop giving them money ?.
The last time was about 16 years ago, but it was a small lump so I reconcilled myself that way. After that i realised it was a very profitable organisation so I never gave another penny ever again expect the odd donation received in the ministry. After that I didnt put money in for ANY publications, never at conventions or any other way. I was a publisher until 2 years ago as well.
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